JFK Assassination: Conspiracy? Lone Gunman?

[SoulBlazerFan]

I don't remember if this was ever discussed here previously. We've had a few debates over the years about the 9/11 tragedy... but I don't remember ever having this brought up.

After learning about MKUltra and Polybius (which more info can be found about that here) I turned my attention the JFK assassination. There has been many theories over the years, a lot of conflicting reports, including a 1978 study that proved at least four shots that day, conflicting with the Warren Commissions finding of only three.

After sitting through a few documentaries, some of which are filled with interesting theories, some with outright outlandish claims, I found this clip. It kind of startled me when I saw it... well take a look for yourself. Another Assassin Caught On Camera?. It's from a longer documentary called "The Day the Dream Died," which is also available to be viewed in its entirely on youtube. This one focuses mostly on facts, and lets the viewer decide as to what they want to believe.

So, what are your thoughts on the JFK matter? Think Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, or was there a greater conspiracy at play?

I want to see what everyones thought on it is. I do believe something was covered up, there was some sort of conspiracy which may very well have involved the CIA (Which Kennedy was looking to disband) or maybe the Mafia (who JFK and RFK were cracking down on) or maybe even both (since the CIA was using mafia men in plans to assassinate Fidel Castro).

I will say this- Lyndon Johnson declared that the records of the case be sealed for fifty years, which was to be this year. It was later extended to seventy-five years, which means the American public won't have the whole truth until the year 2028.

There's a whole lot more to this which I won't get into as it would take hours for me to type it up. It's a very fascinating story to read about/watch documentaries on, although I will warn many of them contain the fatal head shot and graphic images of the autopsy so be fair warned if you decide to watch any. So, thoughts?

[Jason Tandro]

I think conspiracies have a shelf life. I know there are some people who like to talk about JFK still, but more people are talking about the more modern conspiracies like 9/11.

I honestly don't know much about this one. I did watch that Polybius video and I found that very interesting, but I've never really known much about JFK. Honestly from what little I've heard about it I've thought that it's been pretty much proven that there was more than one shooter.

[SoulBlazerFan]

Jason Tandro wrote:

I think conspiracies have a shelf life. I know there are some people who like to talk about JFK still, but more people are talking about the more modern conspiracies like 9/11. I honestly don't know much about this one. I did watch that Polybius video and I found that very interesting, but I've never really known much about JFK. Honestly from what little I've heard about it I've thought that it's been pretty much proven that there was more than one shooter.

There is a whole weird belief system for this shooting... going as far as having doctored photos to videos being altered to "fit" with government timelines.

And what you said is pretty much correct; a senate committee, using acoustics, was able to, with a 95% accuracy, prove that at least one more shot was taken from the grassy knoll area.

I never much cared myself until recently, looking back to this as a history lesson. Past actions dictate future behaviors. So, the lie about JFK can only mean the government will lie about anything, and have lied about everything. They lied about MKUltra, which only "officially" ended a decade after JFK's death, so what other things over the years has the government lied to us about?

[psychokind]

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So, the lie about JFK can only mean the government will lie about anything, and have lied about everything. They lied about MKUltra, which only "officially" ended a decade after JFK's death, so what other things over the years has the government lied to us about?

i think it's supposed to be this way since it's like that before there even was a language that had the word "govermnent" in it

[SoulBlazerFan]

I haven't seen a good debate in here in years. I figured I would reopen this debate to see what people think, especially in the era of information dissemination.

We've gotten documents released regarding the JFK assassination, Epstein, MLKJr, and most recently the UAP/UFO stuff just this week and that's ongoing.

My question to everyone is, considering this post was :;checked date:: 13 years ago what are your opinions on the subject now? Do you think with age comes knowledge and a differing opinion? Have any of you looked into conspiracies? Did your opinions change on certain subjects?

[Manibrandr System]

I think the assassination happened as we knew it. Were there bigger forces at play? Sure, but that comes with stochastic terrorism. I am certain that Lee H Oswald's motivations were informed by the cultural zeitgeist at the time.

[SoulBlazerFan]

Manibrandr System wrote:

I think the assassination happened as we knew it. Were there bigger forces at play? Sure, but that comes with stochastic terrorism. I am certain that Lee H Oswald's motivations were informed by the cultural zeitgeist at the time.

The one thing I've learned in the years since is the "magic bullet theory" was largely disproven when you look at how the car was actually designed. While JFK and Jackie were at the back of the car, many tests never identified that the government and his wives, who were in front of JFK, their seats were Actually lower and moved closer to the middle of the vehicle. When you follow the path of the bullet with that context, it's basically a straight line until it dries the governer in the wrist, where it then deflects straight into the governers leg. It's still magic how many wounds it made, but it does remove some of the mystique.