How do you want to die?

[subjectnamehere]

Like Beruga.

[chicken]

subjectnamehere wrote:

Like Beruga.

standing on a giant airship, 3 guys threatening you in front of you and a deadly propeller behind you which is going to slice you into thousands of pieces, leaving behind only a red flash which once was you and strews your remains in the sky?

well, +1 for that

[Manibrandr System]

I have actually thought about this.

If I were to pick a death, it would be in the name of free speech. When a sand nigger islam jihadist tries to tell me what not to say because it offends them, I would spit in their faces and tell them to blow me. I refuse to be intimidated.

Theo van Gogh, your death will not be in vain!

[tay120n64]

Valerie Valens wrote:

I refuse to be intimidated.

That's hardcore. I'm a little torn on this issue. While I'm all for free speech, I also think its important to have respect for another person's culture. In the end though, I can't support people who get violent over offensive material.

[Jason Tandro]

Valerie Valens wrote:

I have actually thought about this. If I were to pick a death, it would be in the name of free speech. When a sand nigger islam jihadist tries to tell me what not to say because it offends them, I would spit in their faces and tell them to blow me. I refuse to be intimidated. Theo van Gogh, your death will not be in vain!

I have to agree with Tay. Muhammed himself was a great man. It's the nutjobs who take his religion to the extreme that should be made fun of.

[thefencemaster]

Spontaneous combustion while scuba diving off the coast of Hawaii

[Flamez]

Jason Tandro wrote:

Valerie Valens wrote: I have actually thought about this. If I were to pick a death, it would be in the name of free speech. When a sand nigger islam jihadist tries to tell me what not to say because it offends them, I would spit in their faces and tell them to blow me. I refuse to be intimidated. Theo van Gogh, your death will not be in vain! I have to agree with Tay. Muhammed himself was a great man. It's the nutjobs who take his religion to the extreme that should be made fun of.

Now I want to discuss last weeks South Park episode. Im sure the people who watched it will understand

[Manibrandr System]

tay120n64 wrote:

That's hardcore. I'm a little torn on this issue. While I'm all for free speech, I also think its important to have respect for another person's culture. In the end though, I can't support people who get violent over offensive material.

My respect for a culture ends when it is undeniably and inherently rooted in intolerance and misogyny. When the criticism of the moderates against the extremists are suspect only in their complete and utter absense, and the only real "protests" are disingenuously done by Muslim apologists doing so as a PR stunt. It is the only culture in the modern world where apostasy means you have to fear for your life, getting raped means you will be stoned to death and criticizing it will get you death threats, or murdered brutally in a barbaric fashion.

Nobody should sit idly and carelessly say that we should respect a culture that treats people in that manner, because if that is what you truly believe, then you know nothing about Islam.

Jason Tandro wrote:

I have to agree with Tay. Muhammed himself was a great man. It's the nutjobs who take his religion to the extreme that should be made fun of.

The thing is, there are less muslims who honestly opposed the acts of the extremists than there are Creationists who deny Evolution. Islam is a pink elephant in the room, and everyone is walking on eggshells around them and allowing concessions to dark age ideals to happen by way of the Sharia Law. The FUCKING Sharia Law, this is what we have been reduced to, kowtowing to uncultured uncivilized terrorists, this is undignified and shameful. If we do have any respect for freedom speech, what it stands for and the struggles of men who died on the battlefield in order to earn it for generations to come, we'd grow a spine and tell these unwashed camel-fucking misogynistic pedophiles to go suck a fat one.

Besides, the historicity of Muhammad is questionable at best. Even if it's true, anyone who is responsible for even a fraction of that hateful, venom-dripping, bigoted bile is NOT a great man, and he is undeserving of anything but the most scathing of scornful sentiments.

[Jason Tandro]

Valerie Valens wrote:

Even if it's true, anyone who is responsible for even a fraction of that hateful, venom-dripping, bigoted bile is NOT a great man, and he is undeserving of anything but the most scathing of scornful sentiments.

@ Valerie:

Wow, that's actually an incredibly simple argument. Every leader of every religion has spawned the extremists of every religion. Every leader of every government has spawned corrupt factions and units. By your argument there are no good people at all. Or at least no good leaders. How can you even defend that argument rationally?

We are responsible for our own actions.

[SoulBlazerFan]

Jason Tandro wrote:

Valerie Valens wrote: Even if it's true, anyone who is responsible for even a fraction of that hateful, venom-dripping, bigoted bile is NOT a great man, and he is undeserving of anything but the most scathing of scornful sentiments. @ Valerie: Wow, that's actually an incredibly simple argument. Every leader of every religion has spawned the extremists of every religion. Every leader of every government has spawned corrupt factions and units. By your argument there are no good people at all. Or at least no good leaders. How can you even defend that argument rationally? We are responsible for our own actions.

The problem here is, there are no truly good people in the world. We live in a world that is shades of grey. Everyone has their down dark nature, deep seeded secrets and desires. The problem is, no matter what stance you take as a leader, it is the wrong one, and by this, I mean, say, take the abortion topic. There is no right answer here, because you can't take both sides, and it's hard to actually defend a middle-man position to anyone (Like, say, you're opposed to abortion but think it's okay in the event of rape or the death of the mother- both sides will disagree with you whole-heartedly).

You'd also have to say God is deserving hateful scorn, because the Bible, His words, deny the homosexuals, and have caused the "bigoted bile" because of His ideals. I agree with Jason somewhat, that is a rather simple argument, and I'll go back to my statement- we can't side on absolutes, because the world doesn't work that way.

I think the problem is, its sort of single-minded to blame the person who tried to do the right thing. It's the people that take those ideals, and turn them and twist them into rotten things, that deserve the blame. Everything in life, afterall, is open to interpretation.

[psychokind]

SoulBlazerFan wrote:

Jason Tandro wrote: Valerie Valens wrote: Even if it's true, anyone who is responsible for even a fraction of that hateful, venom-dripping, bigoted bile is NOT a great man, and he is undeserving of anything but the most scathing of scornful sentiments. @ Valerie: Wow, that's actually an incredibly simple argument. Every leader of every religion has spawned the extremists of every religion. Every leader of every government has spawned corrupt factions and units. By your argument there are no good people at all. Or at least no good leaders. How can you even defend that argument rationally? We are responsible for our own actions. The problem here is, there are no truly good people in the world. We live in a world that is shades of grey. Everyone has their down dark nature, deep seeded secrets and desires. The problem is, no matter what stance you take as a leader, it is the wrong one, and by this, I mean, say, take the abortion topic. There is no right answer here, because you can't take both sides, and it's hard to actually defend a middle-man position to anyone (Like, say, you're opposed to abortion but think it's okay in the event of rape or the death of the mother- both sides will disagree with you whole-heartedly).

if you're a skillful leader, your stance is always the right one. if you reign over people dumb enough to think, (for example) abortion is something bad, you can as well convince them to find it ok. if you can't, you're just not a good leader.

however, it's right to say people are grey. we're born evil, and society tries to give us rules to be "good".

[Manibrandr System]

Jason Tandro wrote:

@ Valerie: Wow, that's actually an incredibly simple argument. Every leader of every religion has spawned the extremists of every religion. Every leader of every government has spawned corrupt factions and units. By your argument there are no good people at all. Or at least no good leaders. How can you even defend that argument rationally? We are responsible for our own actions.

...and one you've misrepresented. If Muhammad is to be believed to be the prophet who started the whole Islam movement, then you must also concede that Muhammad had a direct hand in the creation of the Qu'ran, and therefore personally responsible for both the merits and odiousness of said religious text.

I condemn the bible just as scathingly, because as a moral text and guideline, it has no place in modern society. However, at least with Christianity, you get people picking and choosing which codes to follow based on their OWN ethical standards. Also, when was the last time you see Christian extremeists fly planes into buildings, kill over 100 people over cartoon satire, and send death threats to anyone who dared to criticize them? Why is it that the ONLY protest against those heinous acts are done on major news networks and Muslims on the verge of apostasy? What you're saying may sound good in theory, for anyone who is used to having Christianity, a relatively benign religion, obnoxiusly waving their cocks about in their faces. But at the end of the day, the events that have happened, the death threats, the killings, the riots, the Sharia Law, they all speak in deafening tones far louder than any apologetic defense for them ever could.

Honestly, does the death of Theo van Gogh mean nothing to you? A man who was shot 8 times, stabbed twice, and then finally decapitated for daring to criticize Islam and how it treats women like objects? Does the fact that the creators of a satirical cartoon series are threatened with the same fate say anything to you? What about the complete lack of protest by any 'moderate Muslim' against such a despicable and low attempt to censor things they do not like?

I am all for tolerating those who would willingly submit their free will and thought to their invisible sky daddy, but that tolerance stops when they try to shove it down our faces, and when people start to die off for criticizing their sky daddy worship.

Seriously, read the Qu'ran and digest every single word of it. It is true that making the right choices are hard, but I damn well know that the prime directive to take over the world with their religion and killing all infidels is definitely not one of them. Neither is an entire culture who is comfortable with the idea of women as young as 9 years of age being married to geriatric pedophiles, or comfortable with the idea of stoning RAPE VICTIMS to death.

[tay120n64]

Valerie Valens wrote:

Nobody should sit idly and carelessly say that we should respect a culture that treats people in that manner, because if that is what you truly believe, then you know nothing about Islam.

Well, I really don't know anything about Islamic culture, I'll be honest. It would be difficult for me to condone an entire religious faction based upon the actions of extremists, although based on your descriptions I am led to assume that the extremists are the only one practicing the religion correctly?

Should this be the case, it would certainly be reasonable to condemn the religion as a whole, but even then...

[Jason Tandro]

Valerie Valens wrote:

because as a moral text and guideline, it has no place in modern society.

Yeah, well again, I think you're completely wrong here.

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Honestly, does the death of Theo van Gogh mean nothing to you? A man who was shot 8 times, stabbed twice, and then finally decapitated for daring to criticize Islam and how it treats women like objects? Does the fact that the creators of a satirical cartoon series are threatened with the same fate say anything to you? What about the complete lack of protest by any 'moderate Muslim' against such a despicable and low attempt to censor things they do not like?

It does mean something to me, but your idea of blaming Muhammed is incredibly simple-minded. Did Muhammed himself kill Theo van Gogh? That is somewhat akin to blaming the parents of a grown man who ends up being a serial killer.

[Yet One More Idiot]

ANYWAY....

Getting back to the topic....I don't want my death to be a peaceful one in my sleep. When I die, I think I'd like to be awake to experience the final moments. So yeah, I'm gonna vote for NOT peacefully sleeping, contrary to popular ideas. Although that is quite believably the most likely outcome for me, it'd still be boring.

I'd like for it to be something big, something spectacular, something....sudden. That'll be remembered. Preferably something that evokes much "WTF?!?!??" if possible, too.

Maybe a final moment such as stepping buck naked into an active particle accelerator and getting ripped apart into my constituent elementary particles. That would be pretty cool.

Or something that involves an elastic band, a liquified lunch, and a prophylactic (mis-paraphrasing Hitchhiker's Guide). ^_^;;;