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Freedan Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:34 am Post subject: |
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^ This is exactly why I stay away from religious debates. At the end of the day, nothing gets accomplished.
Except arguing.
Aoiga, Coz... please keep it civil if you're gonna discuss that. I'm sure no one wants to see an argument get blown out of proportion. _________________
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inferiare Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:38 am Post subject: |
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I dub thee "Mini-mod", Freedan.  _________________
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Freedan Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: |
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rainichan wrote: | I dub thee "Mini-mod", Freedan.  |
I humbly accept this unusual, confusing internship.  _________________
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eFlare Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:53 am Post subject: |
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May I remind everyone before it this, or any other thread like this turns into WWIII:
Freedom of speech applies to all sections of this board. Freedom to share your opinion is also present. Along with the freedom to disagree with another poster's opinion.
You can however not attempt to press your own opinion onto someone else that clearly disagrees with you. Your opinion isn't a hard fact; just accept that people will not always agree with you!
Especially religion can be a touchy subject. Try not to insult people when they disagree with you, you wouldn't want that either. And it's incredibly stupid.
I hope you get where I'm getting at. _________________ ... "If you doubt, you question. If you question, you understand. If you understand, you know. If you know, you want to know more. And if you want to know more... you are alive."
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inferiare Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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eFlare is so awesome when he gets all admin-like and tells people to not to do things against this boards terms.  _________________
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Manibrandr System Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:56 am Post subject: |
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Coz Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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rainichan wrote: | eFlare is so awesome when he gets all admin-like and tells people to not to do things against this boards terms.  |
I know he apreciates that but probably he would like it more if you sayd you have a fetish for board admins XD Yeah I know, I'm becomming too sexy talky like.
Anyways, I checked my post to see if I insulted Aoiga in some way I guess not, hopefully nothing that I sayd was tought as that
Anyways, the thing that I don't really like, is when someone is Christian because you were raised in that way, and follow it blindly without questioning it. Most of the people who seem to approve church and everything related to God seem to be these kind of people. I feel these people could never really choose. I don't hate Aoiga, I just hate the thingie about not even giving a chance to choice.
I have bitched about this to two Priests already and both just told me that 'God loves all his sons' that 'God is love' and that kind of stuff, never answering my question why in the Old Testament God seemed like he was an abusive jerk many times. I don't want to start a discussion about this because I would rather talk about it with the Priests guys and stuff.
However if Aoiga choosed by himself to be a faithful Christian and accept the church as it is, I congratulate him ^^ since he did something that basicly no one does(some people do, but they are so few, we could count them as nothing).
Also, when I bitch about this to people I get to the point where I say that even if things were exactly like that person's church sayd but you weren't given a chance to choose, would it still make it right that you can't choose? If that person says that she doesn't cares if she is give a choice or not, I leave the person at it. I think they are hopeless already.
On the other hand, if they answer that they think that even in those circumstances they should be able to choose, well, I try to get them to a point where they can choose freely.
I don't care getting in religious debates if I think it's worth it coz I don't care getting kicked in the balls sometimes for trying or getting my hands dirty >.<
I promise that if this seems to get out of hand I will shut up even if I'm left in a not so good position
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blueisalive Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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Freedan, the Dark Knight wrote: | ^ This is exactly why I stay away from religious debates. At the end of the day, nothing gets accomplished.
Except arguing.
Aoiga, Coz... please keep it civil if you're gonna discuss that. I'm sure no one wants to see an argument get blown out of proportion. | I don't think it's fair to say all religious debates are wrong because one person might insult someone. You can debate without insulting people. Me, my brother, my parents, and my friends do it all the time. On the internet, maybe, but not all debating.
I was raised as a Christian but I do question it. But I still don't understand why this is any of your business though. _________________
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Coz Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Aoiga wrote: | Freedan, the Dark Knight wrote: | ^ This is exactly why I stay away from religious debates. At the end of the day, nothing gets accomplished.
Except arguing.
Aoiga, Coz... please keep it civil if you're gonna discuss that. I'm sure no one wants to see an argument get blown out of proportion. | I don't think it's fair to say all religious debates are wrong because one person might insult someone. You can debate without insulting people. Me, my brother, my parents, and my friends do it all the time. On the internet, maybe, but not all debating.
I was raised as a Christian but I do question it. But I still don't understand why this is any of your business though. |
Is not really my bussiness. I mean I could just let you alone and it wouldn't probably affect me at all.
For me it's similar to when two random people are beating the hell out of each other on the street. It's not your business but you still do something about it.
I was raised Christian too, tought I am now Christian I have been pretty close to getting into other religions. I just think that this religion has something that interests me, where most of the stuff from the other religions aren't really what I think that is important.
I think I choosed. However I could just be making myself beleive so, and I would be the embodiment of that which I hate.
However Aoiga if what you wish is to be left alone by me and not to discuss the matter anymore, that would again be your choice and I would respect it. |
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blueisalive
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blueisalive Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Coz wrote: | For me it's similar to when two random people are beating the hell out of each other on the street. It's not your business but you still do something about it. |
Yeah, according to the law it is your business [if you live in the states].
Speaking from one Christian to another, it's not really nice to call people close minded. If anyone here ever says that to me again, I am going to go off again. _________________
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inferiare Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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As Freedan has said, keep discussions civil. Aoiga and Coz, you guys are doing good to keep it civil, I just want to see it stay civil.  _________________
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blueisalive Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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What have I ever done incivil here?  _________________
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inferiare Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 2:16 am Post subject: |
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Well, the arguments you and Joan had a while back got bad, but I don't see this debate going that way, so you're ok.  _________________
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Manibrandr System Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 7:03 am Post subject: |
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I'll just say one thing though, people who act as if they never done wrong or try to pass themselves off as so piss me off.  _________________
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blueisalive Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Me as well.  _________________
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