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Postthefencemaster Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 6:53 am   Post subject: Next Zelda game? Reply with quote

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Do we know anything about the next Zelda game they're going to make, or if they are even planning to make another one. I can't imagine them not making more games. maybe I'm just impatient, but i cant find anything about any future games on the internet.

Anyways, anyone got any hopes, expectations and such that they wan tout of any future games. Personally i would just want to see them try something incredibly different then the usual Zelda formula.
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PostEverPhoenix Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 9:15 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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ive heard something about them making a 'real' wii zelda. twilight princess was intended to be a cube game, after all. i dont have a source, but this does seem a logical move.
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Postpsychokind Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:06 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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ive heard something about them making a 'real' wii zelda. twilight princess was intended to be a cube game, after all. i dont have a source, but this does seem a logical move.


Let's all hope so. Since the Zelda-games were always using the full bandwidth of technology the chances for a real good sword-swinging next Zelda are pretty good. Hopefully it will be as good as the Dragonball fighting-games Very Happy
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PostEverPhoenix Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:11 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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ive heard something about them making a 'real' wii zelda. twilight princess was intended to be a cube game, after all. i dont have a source, but this does seem a logical move.


Let's all hope so. Since the Zelda-games were always using the full bandwidth of technology the chances for a real good sword-swinging next Zelda are pretty good. Hopefully it will be as good as the Dragonball fighting-games Very Happy


but lets hope it isnt anything close to a fighting game... so many games waste their potential by becoming fighters... (im mainly thinking of the anime-based games)
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Posttay120n64 Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 7:41 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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So far there are no anoucements regarding the next Zelda beyond the announcement made by Nintendo President Satoru Iwata that the Zelda production team is "working." Prior to that the only announcement regarding future titles was that Twilight Princess would be the last "traditional" title. Which would make Phantom Hourglass either the first in a new wave of Zelda games, or a shrewd spin off capping the end of the old games.

No one knows what's in store for the Zelda series now. There are several directions they could go. Such as:

1.) Make "interaction" games that utilize Wii and DS features, therby killing the glory of the Zelda series completely
2.) Take it in a more "RPG-ish" direction ala Zelda II.
3.) Make an actual sequal instead of prequals and spin-offs.
4.) Or the most likely, re-invent the wheel ala Ocarina of Time/Wind Waker. (i.e. new art direction/story direction/recurring characters)

Whatever they do, if they don't direct it towards the hardcore consumer, the series will most definately die. After all, it's been a downhill slide ever since Ocarina of Time came out and made the story more complicated than it needed to be. (but then again, there aren't many who care about that...)
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PostFreedan Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 10:30 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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1.) Make "interaction" games that utilize Wii and DS features, therby killing the glory of the Zelda series completely


Gotta disagree with this one. The only Zelda that's used any specific 'interacton' features was Phantom Hourglass (I'm not counting TP, since it was never intended for the Wii; it was ported to strengthen the launch), and PH was fantastic.

A new Zelda is in the works for the Wii, so its functionality won't be tacked on at the last minute. Nintendo pretty much always takes care to really polish their top titles, so I have no doubt that a Zelda with Wii-specific functions could work really well. Especially if they make good use of this Wii-mote plus accessory, or whatever it's called.

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3.) Make an actual sequal instead of prequals and spin-offs.


Also this one. Majora's Mask followed OoT, PH followed WW. If I'm not mistaken, Link's Awakening follows LttP as well.

After OoT, MM comes next, with WW and PH following after. TP takes place between those two pairs, which would make it a sequel and prequel (as is my understanding). I guess Minish Cap is a prequel, though it's questionable whether Four Swords / Adventures count, since their intent was on multiplayer gameplay.

At any rate, to answer the original question, yes... a new Zelda is in the works. But that's about all we know about it. It'll use the Wii's features somehow, since TP was the 'last Zelda as we know it'. A lot of people were hoping Nintendo would show something at E3, but there was no word of it.
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Posttay120n64 Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 6:56 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, if you think about it though, the only games that really take place after the original games are the ones in the ALttP story arc. The majority of the Zelda games have been backstory and sequals to backstories.
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PostFreedan Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 1:34 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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Possibly. But it's hard to say, since there's still no canon timeline.

Miyamoto once said in an interview that OoT was the oldest story; the first in the timeline. 6 years later, Minish Cap comes along, and that one is often accepted as being pre-OoT. Others say it isn't. Who's to say it's a prequel or not?

And that's definitely not the only example.

Even if you accept that the early games take place at the end (and there are always timeline theories that do and don't), it's hard to fault Nintendo for prequels. They've given themselves hundreds (or thousands) of years of backstory to fill in. It wouldn't make for much of a story if thousands of uneventful years passed by.

It would be a lot easier if Nintendo would just release the canon timeline they claim to have, but they don't seem particularly interested in a timeline at all; they just set games' times to appease fans. Meh/Worried
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Posttay120n64 Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:07 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah...

*sigh*

Those bastards.
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PostBlade Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:11 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think some things like certain video games, TV series or books aren't ment/not build to have a timeline...maybe because it'd stray away from what the game/book/series is about.

F.ex. The Simpsons
Many people love them, like I do, but some are so obsessed with them that they're trying to figure out who's birthday is when, and how to put an order into the episodes.
But it's not possible because there are like 3 christmas episodes where Bart and Lisa are the same age :p

Dragonball on the other hand has a well structured time line, and maybe in the early episodes it's not *that* clear, they still managed to add these episodes into the newer DB Z episodes-timeline.

And *maybe* Zelda wasn't intended for that. In the first games, it was *just* a (quite clicheeique) fantasy game. Same with the next. Andsoforth, until OoT and MM.

It's up to everyone, but I for myself see no point in forcing the Zelda games into a timeline.
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Posttay120n64 Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:59 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would honestly prefer to think that they're not connected. It'd be kind of like the Final Fantasy or Soul Blazer series in that way. However, they keep claiming that there's a timeline and they keep reffering to other games in each new game, so even if you wanted to pretend there's no timeline there is, even if there isn't.

To put it simply: Nintendo is retarded.
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PostBlade Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:51 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have to admit, the only Zelda games I've played are:

ALttP, OoT, MM, Links Awakening, Oracles (not finished), and a bit of TwPr.

I had a halfassed attempt on the first game of the series, but I never really got the story, and I didn't care much for it, since it's far away from the deep storys and colourfull characterdrawing ALttP, Oot andsoon had...

Soooo, I've only played the important ones (or plan to do so), and might not understand any signs of a full epic timeline-thingy that might go on.
And if there is a waterproofed timeline, Nintendo hides it very well -.-
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Postinferiare Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:44 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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Linear timelines can be nice, though. Especially for those that make the games. They aren't constrained by "Well, what Hyrulian year would this take place in?! D:" That way they can fill in the gaps as they go along. They know that OoT was one of the first things that happened, they cab say "Hm, what about the next game? It can be placed at x time, and y can be happening!"

With something so linear, there can be multiple games wherever they want. It doesn't necessarily have to be in chronological order, either. Miyamoto might know the timeline, but why reveal it? More fun to hear fan speculation on the small amount of info he's given us.
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Postpsychokind Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:38 am   Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Oot you appoint the sages, rescue Zelda and kill Ganondorf. And while being sucked into the Aether he screams "I'll kill your descendants once I'm outta here!". And well, you kill Ganon once again in Lttp when he trys to kill the descendants.

So the descendant of Link (Link again) kills Ganon who is free again and rescues the descendant of Zelda (Zelda again?). That being said, I always thought the different games of Zelda never had an all-together timeline (The Windwaker is then another future of Lttp with Link and Zelda again?).
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PostOcie Denver Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:23 pm   Post subject: Reply with quote

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In Oot you appoint the sages, rescue Zelda and kill Ganondorf. And while being sucked into the Aether he screams "I'll kill your descendants once I'm outta here!". And well, you kill Ganon once again in Lttp when he trys to kill the descendants.

So the descendant of Link (Link again) kills Ganon who is free again and rescues the descendant of Zelda (Zelda again?). That being said, I always thought the different games of Zelda never had an all-together timeline (The Windwaker is then another future of Lttp with Link and Zelda again?).


Same to Ganondorf (aka Ganon demon with power of triforce). In OoT, It said that every 100 years, only male was born in Gerudo tribe. Could be same Ganondorf in most games or just different men with same name from same tribe? Also, LttP manual book mentioned his last name "Dragmire".
Whatever, I think OoT is "beginning" game in timeline. LttP and TP possibly have same servant to Ganondorf, attempted to bring him and his darkness world into Light World and same Magic Mirror linked both worlds together.
Also anyone notice lands in games is completely different from each other? Like Hylian castles and deserts?

Funny thing about Nintendo... They did have Metroid timeline in straight way.
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