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psychokind
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psychokind Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:54 am Post subject: |
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but it was cowboy builded _________________
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Jason Tandro
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Jason Tandro Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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you're entitled to my opinion and I'm entitled to think you're stupid.
Just kidding, Flamez.
The thing is, I've not seen a scrap of evidence in support of this theory that was not instantly refuted by careful research, or common logic. I won't say people who believe that 9-11 was an inside job are idiots, because at least I can see with what has been presented how you might have doubts. Unlike the moon Landing, which I just can't fathom. _________________ Support me on Patreon!
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Freedan Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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As much as I appreciate a good conspiracy theory about this or that, I don't buy it in this case.
We're expected to believe that the government intentionally killed thousands of their own people with an attack using military precision, and many more in the following war, for what...? Oil?
To pull something like that off, a huge number of people would have to be involved. And every one of them kept it secret until after the fact? Can you imagine the fallout that would erupt if they were ever found out? Vigilantes would execute every last one of the people involved.
There are plenty of sites devoted to debunking those theories, with facts and common sense.
I didn't like Bush either, but he was an idiot, not a madman. _________________
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Jason Tandro
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Jason Tandro Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Freedan, the Dark Knight wrote: | As much as I appreciate a good conspiracy theory about this or that, I don't buy it in this case.
We're expected to believe that the government intentionally killed thousands of their own people with an attack using military precision, and many more in the following war, for what...? Oil?
To pull something like that off, a huge number of people would have to be involved. And every one of them kept it secret until after the fact? Can you imagine the fallout that would erupt if they were ever found out? Vigilantes would execute every last one of the people involved.
There are plenty of sites devoted to debunking those theories, with facts and common sense.
I didn't like Bush either, but he was an idiot, not a madman. |
THANK YOU! As I've said, Dubya could never pull off something this elaborate. _________________ Support me on Patreon!
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inferiare Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:00 am Post subject: |
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Jason Tandro wrote: | Freedan, the Dark Knight wrote: | As much as I appreciate a good conspiracy theory about this or that, I don't buy it in this case.
We're expected to believe that the government intentionally killed thousands of their own people with an attack using military precision, and many more in the following war, for what...? Oil?
To pull something like that off, a huge number of people would have to be involved. And every one of them kept it secret until after the fact? Can you imagine the fallout that would erupt if they were ever found out? Vigilantes would execute every last one of the people involved.
There are plenty of sites devoted to debunking those theories, with facts and common sense.
I didn't like Bush either, but he was an idiot, not a madman. |
THANK YOU! As I've said, Dubya could never pull off something this elaborate. |
He had people to think for him. :/
And anyway, I'm not touching this debate with a ten-foot pole. _________________
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Jason Tandro
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Jason Tandro Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Uh, it's entirely your choice, Raini, but I for one won't dog out anybody for having a differing opinion. That's the great thing about debate. We shout ourselves hoarse about our opinions at the podium then get off at 11 and go drink beers together _________________ Support me on Patreon!
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SoulBlazerFan Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:38 am Post subject: |
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I agree with you that it wasn't a inside job. There are people out there who have very compelling cases, however.
Go onto youtube and search for the video "Loose Change." There's a half hour long version, and an hour and two minute long version. There's some interesting stuff in there, which does raise questions, but some of the claims they make aren't even backed up.
If anyone decides to view the video, I'd love to discuss it with you... _________________ "...at first it's fine and you think you have a dark side – it's exciting – and then you realise the dark side wins every time if you decide to indulge in it. It's also a completely different way of living when you know that...a different species of person." - Lana Del Rey
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inferiare Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Jason Tandro wrote: | Uh, it's entirely your choice, Raini, but I for one won't dog out anybody for having a differing opinion. That's the great thing about debate. We shout ourselves hoarse about our opinions at the podium then get off at 11 and go drink beers together |
Haha. It's not that, I'm just too lazy at the moment to back up claims and look for things that are in my favour. _________________
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psychokind
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psychokind Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: |
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I was convinced that it wasn't an inside job when I talked with a father of my friend who runs a architectural company. he said it wasn't blown up or sth, but they just built it cheap. if they would have met the building standards, something big like this wouldn't have happened. _________________
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psychokind
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psychokind Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 5:23 pm Post subject: |
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Jason Tandro wrote: | Frankly it's much more easy to think "somebody got lazy" than "somebody put a lot of effort into a master plan to fool the American public." |
haha yeah, you could put it that way or: less cost! _________________
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