Xbox 2/Xenon

[Freedan]

^ That first quote is right. Last I heard (it was a long time ago though, may have changed), Microsoft was eating $150 or so on each system it sold. They were hoping to cover their hardware losses with software sales.

The second quote is half right. Nintendo has generally stayed away from all the extra bells and whistles, and their games have usually been more about the gameplay (to me, they're just more fun.... that's why I'm a Nintendo diehard at heart). But they're no less of a profit-whore than the other companies. They've released about half a dozen variations on the Gameboy alone, squeezing as much money out of it as they can.

They focus on the gameplay more than the extras, but they're still a company out to make money.

[Rom Manic]

I hate both quotes.

For the first one, Microsoft has only made ONE Video Game console. And for the record, they probably don't care because they own the biggest market in the world. You think Xbox is their biggest source of income? Get real. How many people do you think even HAVE the greatest console on earth? Not many, but let me tell you that there are more people with Windows opn a PC by an exponential factor.

And for the second quote, thats only one side of the freakin coin. And Freedan is right, they only go halfway on it. It's not just about the arts of the game, it's also about appealing to the biggest audience possible. You gotta take the whole cookie rather than take a bite from it.

NoA needs to shut it's mouth if it wants to avoid having a foot put in there again.

[Coz]

What they meant with every system they sell, it's that they take into account every XBOX sold. They aren't saying that they have more than one console.

Also, while that might be true, to everyone's(even Microsoft) surprise, they had profits. How? Well the combination of Halo, online gamming and monthly fees. The 'small' constant monthly fees for online gamming in the end pay more than a one time fee for a game.

And last, I know that many of the people at Nintendo, even it's president, are gamers too. I think that what they are trying to say is "yes we are a company who wants your money. But hey, we like making games, so why not get your money by making games instead of something more profitable?", seeing as how they have lately been behind in sales with Microsoft and Sony, and that they are behind Sony in profits, this might be true for the home consoles they have released.

[Dark Samurai]

Rom Manic wrote:

How many people do you think even HAVE the greatest console on earth?

I have three of the greatest consoles on earth (in my opinion) PS2, Game cube, and the super nintendo. I mean I have an xbox but I'm questioning if it was worth even buying. I'm actually going to take it apart here in a couple of months and install the good parts in my computer...mainly the hard-drive.

Rom Manic wrote:

It's not just about the arts of the game, it's also about appealing to the biggest audience possible.

sad but true... wasn't that a great song?... well anyway, you got to have money so you can make the games that you like, and hope that the fans like it too... Well that's my hope. But they mainly make games for the demographics which just means "for the money."

[Freedan]

Personally (only opinion, I can't really back it up with any facts), I think Nintendo connects better with gamers because, like it was said before, a lot of people at Nintendo are gamers themselves. They probably make games that they'd find entertaining themselves, and figure gamers would probably get in to the same thing.

X-Box guys are mainly businessmen and not gamers. They're out to make a quick buck (more so than the other companies, I'd say), which is why they've put out so many sports games; they see the numbers that buy them, so they continue to make them.

Not to say that X-Box developers don't consider the gamers too, but I would imagine that Nintendo is run by many more (hell, Miyamoto himself is a huge gamer).

[inferiare]

I dunno... most of the games I've seen for X-Box, save a VERY small few, were just generic games you'd see on a PC (generic shooter games, generic action games) with little to no plot involved. They really are just out to make Bill Gates even more insanely rich than he already is.

And I agree with Samurai, the best consoles on the earth are hooked up to my TV at the moment; my PS2, my SNES, and my Sega Genesis.

[Dark Samurai]

Can't go wrong with classics that's when they were still trying to find the market

[inferiare]

Plus, all the old school gamers (like me ) are still trying to find the games their parents wouldn't get them, or that are now almost impossible to find.

[Dark Samurai]

I'm an old school gamer too. and yes i am looking for the games my mother never got me... but that was because we had little money to spend on that stuff... or at least that's what i was told lol

[Freedan]

*Old school gamer*

16 - 17 years, I've been playing. Ever since I was old enough to hold and use a controller.

We don't have much old stuff around where I live, so I'm forced to turn to emulation. But some of the best stuff came on the SNES.

[Dark Samurai]

I'm 19 and I've been playing games since i was around 4 0r 5 well as long as i can remember

[Freedan]

I don't remember a time when there wasn't video games around here. Even when I was really young, we had the old Sega system. When I was 3, I started playing the NES (I don't imagine I did too well, but I remember my first game was Super Mario Bros. ).

Then I moved up to Dragon Warrior when I was 4. First RPG.

20 years old now, and my love of games shows no sign of dying.

[inferiare]

Been playing for a good 16 years. First ever game was Chip n' Dale for the NES.

[Dark Samurai]

sad to say but my first rpg was FF3 lol

but I remember my grandfather renting games when I was just starting so he could beat me and he never did, lol

[inferiare]

First RPG was Mario RPG for the SNES. That game was the shizzle. It came out when I was 9 or so, and in the three days I had it, I could get up to the Volcano and to the bosses of that level. Not too bad for a 9 year old who had never played an RPG before.