How incredibly retarded...

[blueisalive]

How stupid is this?

Della-Stock on DeviantART.com wrote:

STOP! Read this before you download or use in a photo manipulation. By downloading, storing, or using any of my stock, you need to read and agree to my rules as listed below. DeviantART’s FAQ rules state in FAQ 157: "Stock images are images that are posted somewhere with the express intent that it may be used by other artists in their own artwork. Use of these images in this fashion are subject to the artist's license, which may or may not require the payment of fees. The use of stock imagery at deviantART is permissible if and only if you can provide a link to the source of the stock image along with some kind of proof that you have satisfied the terms of the stock image license." (or in other terms, my rules set forth within this journal entry) "Artists who fail to adhere to these rules and who consistantly submit third party materials without the knowledge or permission of the proper owner of the materials will receive administrative action. This may include removing your artwork from deviantART, the possible purging of your Gallery and Scrapbook, and the possible banning of your account with or without prior warning." :::: THE RULES:::: 1. Link to me in the description. (It can be a link to the original picture, a link to my icon, or both.) Tip:When you save my photo to your computer, change the file name to whatever number is in the URL. That way when you want to remember who's photo you used, all you have to do is type in the address field (no spaces) http:// www. deviantart.com/ deviation/ place number here/ 2. Link your deviation back here. (Preferably on the page of the picture you used, but anything will do.) Need help linking? Click Here 3. Restrictions: I don't want my photos, especially those containing human models, to be used in sexually erotic creations (these include sexual positions or fetish pin-up type manipulations), religious photos of any sort (including witchcraft) or political campaigns or collages. As for fantasy and dark artists, I would prefer it if my stock was not used in relation to demons, ghosts, or magical spells. (including voodoo, witchcraft, and sacrifices) (If you are wondering what is "acceptable" please look through my favorites to see what other people have done with my stock that I agreed to) Fairies and fantasy creatures are acceptable. Please don't be offended by this request, but this is my stock, my rules. 4. Where: Just remember, these stock photos are free to use ONLY ON deviantART. They can be used in photo manipulations, paintings, references, ect. (Any other usage: please request permission first) For blogs: I will allow my stock photos to be used under these conditions. 1. You must follow the usual rules about linking when posting on DA. 2. You MUST put a copyright symbol along with Daniella Koontz and the url of the photo used or of my page ON the photo being used for the blog. For Avatars: You may use my stock in your avatar if you also submit it as a deviation with the appropriate credit given in the description. 5. Prints: If you use my stock and would like to sell it in DAprints, send me a note with a link to the photo you would like to make a print, and the format of the e-mail to send to prints permission that I can just copy and paste. If I can tell you've spent a good amount of time and effort, I will pretty much always agree. But if you've just tweaked the colors or sometime simple, don't expect a reply. If you don't understand this rule please read FAQ for submitting Prints These photos are all taken by me and my friends, and special to me. I am submitting them as stock for the benefit of my fellow deviants. Not so that someone can come along, call my photograph a free domain and use it for any means they desire. So, if you don’t mind following a couple simple rules, than good. But if you do mind, please look for stock photos some place else.

She basically already has the image she 'wants you to use' in her head and won't accept anything else. Her stock is rubbish anyway...
It makes me wonder if she would just destroy you with spam about stock violations and crap.

What else, she comments on every manip you use of hers. I have seen pictures made with her stock that only have replies from her on them. And alot of the time she just critiques, whether you ask her to or not.

GOSH! I have a sudden urge to misuse her stock, like place her in a center of a Pentagram with demons, skulls, satan, and other abominations in their with her. Stick that in your voodoo, Della.

She just can't make stock and say 'don't do blah blah blah with it because I say so'. I don't people to misuse my stock, so I don't post my stock up on DA. Grr! Can any other artistes relate to me?

[Coz]

I feel strangely relieved that I am somewhat confused about what you mean XD And no, I was too lazy to read the whole quote :p

[blueisalive]

Basically, she is saying "You can use my stock but don't use it for erotic, religious, political, or macabre pics. And ask me permission to do everything and include my name on the pic."

[Manibrandr System]

Well it's HER work, NOT you! She has every right to say how people can use her work, NOT you. Don't like it? Use stock from another person, that simple.

[Coz]

It's true that it's her stock, but I comparing her stuff to the ones other people give you she prolly overdid it with restrictions.

[Manibrandr System]

Things that had slipped past me, that I can't lets slide out of moral obligation...

Aoiga wrote:

Her stock is rubbish anyway... ...What else, she comments on every manip you use of hers. I have seen pictures made with her stock that only have replies from her on them. And alot of the time she just critiques, whether you ask her to or not. GOSH! I have a sudden urge to misuse her stock, like place her in a center of a Pentagram with demons, skulls, satan, and other abominations in their with her. Stick that in your voodoo, Della.

First off....WTF? Who are you to say what is good and what is crap? Do you have any basis or standards to judge art from? Or are you just saying that because you are pissed that she has a say in what she wants or don't want to be done in her stock?

Secondly, this is the one thing that have missed so many "artists" (I use that term loosely) THE WHOLE POINT IN POSTING YOUR ART ON DA OR ANY PUBLIC PLACE IS TO GET CRITIQUES!! I wish prople would praise my art less and give more critiques, so I know what to improve and how I can push myself further. Don't like critiques, then don't upload your art. (And yes, critiquing is way different from bashing other's art like you did to her and my adult art a few days back.)

And thirdly, that wish you made was fucking low. For that I am no longer calling you an artist, but a disrespectful snob. You are no different from those kids in the TeamArtail oekaki board who turned up their noses on the new rules. But no matter, I have already informed her of your intent and if you ever dare to do anything like that, let's just say that banning from DA would be inevitable.

Honestly, some people aren't worth the fleshbags they're put into.

[blueisalive]

Joan, You posted an artist a few months back you said put no effort into his/her pieces so why do you get so [kip-voice]T.O.'d[/kip-voice] when I post mine.

And second off, I didn't bash your art. You are a talented artist. I said it wasn't good for you to post pornographic material in a public place, subjecting them to viewing things they didn't even have choice of viewing or not. I said to 'have fun drawing furries'. Yes, I meant that sarcastically, but I was more insulting you than your art. You must be extremely insecure in the first place to think everything I say is a flame of some sort. Especially since I never even cussed on the board.

On the other hand, you actually DID insult my art.

[inferiare]

I might have to go with Aoiga on this one. Most people that I have seen on DA who use stock photos say who they got it from. If they don't, then they're the art-stealers (like the one moron Tails-chan who took Sarah B.'s stuff from her now-defunct website trauma bunny, claimed she was Sarah, and posted the trauma bunny stuff on her DA website. Don't worry, she got booted.) who really don't care about who's stuff they use. When Aoiga uses stock, he always credits. But even so, posting the image credit is an unwritten but very common sense rule.

As for using the stock photo in a manip'ed picture, saying you can't use it in anything "religious or political campaigns or collages." Um...isn't that usually what stock photos are for? I can understand the sexually erotic pictures. But what if the model isn't all erotic and it's just something SIMPLE?

But for her to say "[these pictures are] special to me", then why is she using them as STOCK photos for everyone to use? That makes no sense to me at ALL. My photos are special to me too, and that's why they are NOT stock photos. To me she *does* sound a bit stuck up, considering what she lists as unacceptable REALLY limits how you can manip the picture. But that's my opinion, really.

And the personal attacks are getting a bit much, so I would greatly appreciate it if you stopped them. Thanks.

[Manibrandr System]

Aoiga wrote:

Joan, You posted an artist a few months back you said put no effort into his/her pieces so why do you get so [kip-voice]T.O.'d[/kip-voice] when I post mine.

Because, I've wasted months of trying to help him to improve because he asked me to and never followed my advice. It stems from a much deeper frustration than a shallow "look-and-piss" kind of frustration. And unlike you, I made up with him a few months later, with the help of his friends he's finall taking advice, so it's productive. if there weren't this tension, he would never try to push himself to improve.

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And second off, I didn't bash your art. I said it wasn't good for you to post pornographic material in a public place, subjecting them to viewing things they didn't even have choice of viewing or not. I said to 'have fun drawing furries'. Yes, I meant that sarcastically, but I was more insulting you than your art.

That's total bullshit and you know it, I have said millions of times that I made the Adult Thread so YOU know what to avoid. I can definitely see that you're being insulting, but I can't help but smile at the fact that you're lowering yourself to the level of an arrogant bigot by doing so.

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You must be extremely insecure in the first place to think everything I say is a flame of some sort. Especially since I never even cussed on the board.

Yeah, I'm so insecure that I need to stop myself from getting a big head by the countless ego-stroking I get from the strangers I meet.

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On the other hand, you actually DID insult my art.

Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, even if it's not true, since I remember saying that I *RESPECT* other people's work. Remember, learn the word respect, it might help you get that head out of your ass someday.

And Raini, I'm disappointed, I thought you'd have seen the point I'm trying to make here. Everyone has the right to say what others would want to do with their work, no matter how ridiculous they seem, and everybody deserves the dignity to have their rules for their work respected.

[inferiare]

Joan-Michele wrote:

And Raini, I'm disappointed, I thought you'd have seen the point I'm trying to make here. Everyone has the right to say what others would want to do with their work, no matter how ridiculous they seem, and everybody deserves the dignity to have their rules for their work respected.

I agree. But what she's doing is practically telling people that they can't use it for what they might actually need the picture for. I can see the "dont change the colours on it and call it a manip", but the rest of the "I don't want it used for this, this, or this" takes out the fun of manip'ing the picture for what you may need it for, and can't get the same kind of stock somewhere else. And that is what ticks me off. So before you say you're disappointed, try to look at it from that point of view. As someone who does manip pictures (in my own spare time, of course) and someone who does some (really crappy) amateur photography, that comes off to me as someone who shouldn't be posting their photo work as stock for people to use.

[Manibrandr System]

Well, I think it adds fun, now you have to think of unorthodox methods to use the photomanips.

[blueisalive]

Joan-Michele wrote:

Aoiga wrote: Joan, You posted an artist a few months back you said put no effort into his/her pieces so why do you get so [kip-voice]T.O.'d[/kip-voice] when I post mine. Because, I've wasted months of trying to help him to improve because he asked me to and never followed my advice. It stems from a much deeper frustration than a shallow "look-and-piss" kind of frustration. And unlike you, I made up with him a few months later, with the help of his friends he's finall taking advice, so it's productive. if there weren't this tension, he would never try to push himself to improve. Quote: And second off, I didn't bash your art. I said it wasn't good for you to post pornographic material in a public place, subjecting them to viewing things they didn't even have choice of viewing or not. I said to 'have fun drawing furries'. Yes, I meant that sarcastically, but I was more insulting you than your art. That's total bullshit and you know it, I have said millions of times that I made the Adult Thread so YOU know what to avoid. I can definitely see that you're being insulting, but I can't help but smile at the fact that you're lowering yourself to the level of an arrogant bigot by doing so. Quote: You must be extremely insecure in the first place to think everything I say is a flame of some sort. Especially since I never even cussed on the board. Yeah, I'm so insecure that I need to stop myself from getting a big head by the countless ego-stroking I get from the strangers I meet. Quote: On the other hand, you actually DID insult my art. Just giving you a taste of your own medicine, even if it's not true, since I remember saying that I *RESPECT* other people's work. Remember, learn the word respect, it might help you get that head out of your ass someday. And Raini, I'm disappointed, I thought you'd have seen the point I'm trying to make here. Everyone has the right to say what others would want to do with their work, no matter how ridiculous they seem, and everybody deserves the dignity to have their rules for their work respected.

How could I make up with the person months later if months haven't even passed since I created this topic? That doesn't make any sense.

How am I being a biggot? I don't understand that at all. And about giving me the taste of 'my own medicine', when did I insult your work? Honestly?

And about respect, you sure do like to respect alot of people you deem worthy. I don't really care Joan if you respect me or not. I have made this painfully clear before...

[Manibrandr System]

...so, Raini. Don't you agree that added restrictions gives the photomanippers a chance to think out of the box?

[Axe Kazama]

Like Coz, I too think she overdid it with restrictions though
But like Joan said, it's her art she can do whatever she wants with it and tell those who want to use her to do whatever pleases her
anyway
if you want, you could just make a bullshit account and just dedicate it to mis-using her photos, art piece, etc. to really get on her nerves
otherwise, just ignore her and go on doing what you do best

P.S: you guys/gals better back off each other, or I'm slipping some red cordial into Raini's coffee then you'll all be in trouble

[Manibrandr System]

The Admins can track your IP, so if they find out that you're abusing DA's multiple account system, ALL of your accounts pertaining to your IP will be banned.