Confessions of a Non-RPG player. /Your first RPG experience

[psychokind]

Blade wrote:

Almost no skill required, the only thing you need is time, and money.

you should have played the end content. can't think of a more difficult MMO in terms of PvE, and especially in the classic wow your social and organizational skills had to be immense as the raid and/or guild leader.

[Blade]

I was rather refering to "skill" as in micro, or 1st person shooter-skill...

[inferiare]

psychokind wrote:

Blade wrote: Almost no skill required, the only thing you need is time, and money. you should have played the end content. can't think of a more difficult MMO in terms of PvE, and especially in the classic wow your social and organizational skills had to be immense as the raid and/or guild leader.

I dunno about WoW being the most difficult in PvE. I've had friends that play WoW who went "... holy shit that's crazy" at the stuff in FFXI concerning endgame things (why yes I'm slightly biased toward FFXI since I play it ).

[psychokind]

rainichan wrote:

psychokind wrote: Blade wrote: Almost no skill required, the only thing you need is time, and money. you should have played the end content. can't think of a more difficult MMO in terms of PvE, and especially in the classic wow your social and organizational skills had to be immense as the raid and/or guild leader. I dunno about WoW being the most difficult in PvE. I've had friends that play WoW who went "... holy shit that's crazy" at the stuff in FFXI concerning endgame things (why yes I'm slightly biased toward FFXI since I play it ).

that might be highly possible^^ I can only speak of my experience, and that includes only WoW, GW, WAR, RoM, AoC, HG:L.

and as blade said, it's difficult to say what's difficult in my opinion it was the organizational, social, tactical and leadership aspects of the game that made me think it was difficult. In an Ego-shooter, you're good if you're good (solo played), but organize raids for 39 other people...

[Flamez]

wow is a joke, way to easy, reason I stopped playing, naxx was finished in under a week (people had to lvl to 80 b4 they entered and still did it inside a week) and uldar was done in 3. Wow has become a casual game all the challenge has gone from it.

[psychokind]

Flamez wrote:

wow is a joke, way to easy, reason I stopped playing, naxx was finished in under a week (people had to lvl to 80 b4 they entered and still did it inside a week) and uldar was done in 3. Wow has become a casual game all the challenge has gone from it.

I agree completely, it was the same for me. classic wow was a great game, the elite pve-players could rule in pvp with their uber equip; I loved that since I was one of them^^ BC seperated pvp and pve, but at least the pve was challenging, and now the frozen throne just sucks.

[Manibrandr System]

I would say that the entire MMO genre in general sucks.

[inferiare]

Valerie Valens wrote:

I would say that the entire MMO genre in general sucks.

It only starts to suck when you get sites like WoW Detox because you're so addicted to the game. They're fun to play and you meet a bunch of people (it's almost like playing something like Serious Sam with friends when you make the friends ) but the endgame content is what makes people so OMG ADDICTED MUST GET X ITEM OH GOD MUST SURPASS THIS PERSON AAAAAH. I'll admit, I'd love to get the Relic gear in FFXI, however it includes doing the following:

-Getting into a Dynamis Linkshell (which is hard anyway) and possibly waiting your turn in getting the items. You also need a special item to get in, a set time to go in, and it can take a loooong time to get through to the boss. (Info on Dynamis)

-Getting Ancient Currency drops from mobs to pay for the relic pieces to actually be converted into the relic armour. At least, if I'm understanding correctly, you need the currency to convert armour pieces. How much, I'm not sure. However, this is what it takes to get your relic weapon and god does it make me want to curl up in a ball and cry.

Stuff like that is what get people addicted to MMO's (and incidentally, hearing the explanation for Dynamis and Relic sets made my WoW-playing friends go "...oh shit that's insane" about FFXI ), and while I want my Relic gear (to be among the few that have a full relic set on my server), I doubt I'll be able to do it. :/