A Sailor and his Son

Lavos · Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:30 am

I have been told told that I over analyse way too much, but I would like to see what you guys think.

The Ghost Ship in the St. Elle's area. Am I the only one who has wondered what those characters back stories are? Why they were out at sea? Perhaps fleeing from Deathtoll? Has anyone else thought about this?

Jason Tandro · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject:

You can't over-analyze, I don't think. Actually that's half the fun of dissecting stories and as a fanfiction author I do it all the time.

If there does exist a backstory for those two, I think Shiva Indis might know... as for me, I'm not certain. Perhaps we are meant to fill in the blanks ourselves.

Lavos · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

Jason Tandro wrote:You can't over-analyze, I don't think. Actually that's half the fun of dissecting stories and as a fanfiction author I do it all the time.

If there does exist a backstory for those two, I think Shiva Indis might know... as for me, I'm not certain. Perhaps we are meant to fill in the blanks ourselves.

Filling the the blanks is an interesting plot tool, but it usually drives me crazy 95% of the time.

Jason Tandro · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject:

+1. It's why movies like the Blair Witch Project and Quarantine drive me up a wall. In video games, its inexcusable, unless you can, through a side-quest or diligent searching, uncover the secrets.

tay120n64 · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject:

Jason Tandro wrote:In video games, its inexcusable

Final Fantasy VII comes to mind...

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

tay120n64 wrote:
Jason Tandro wrote:In video games, its inexcusable
Final Fantasy VII comes to mind...

That's why they supplement everything by retconning everything ever and then making up new backstory for everything!

...no, I'm not grudgeful at all.

Lavos · Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject:

rainichan wrote:
tay120n64 wrote:
Jason Tandro wrote:In video games, its inexcusable
Final Fantasy VII comes to mind...
That's why they supplement everything by retconning everything ever and then making up new backstory for everything!

...no, I'm not grudgeful at all.

When did they do that?

Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:31 am Post subject:

Dirge of Cerberus. Advent Children. Before Crisis. Crisis Core. Pretty much everything in the new compilation and the newer Ultimania guides. I happen to like calling the new FF7 stuff the "Final Fantasy 7 Complication Wankfest" since that's all it is now.

tay120n64 · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:09 pm Post subject:

Tetsuya Nomura is Japanese for "one who makes things up as he goes along."

It's true.

Jason Tandro · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:17 pm Post subject:

Yeah, it's a shame too because FF7 was such a good game and then they make the compilation which should enhance the experience and yet makes things even more confusing...

And I read a plot synopsis of Before Crisis and I want them so badly to decanonize that... Frankly Dirge of Cerberus was the only halfway decent story that I could at least tolerate... and maybe Crisis Core if they hadn't so badly retconned the backstory. Advent Children, while a fun little trip, was annoying in retrospect.

Lavos · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 4:21 pm Post subject:

Jason Tandro wrote:Yeah, it's a shame too because FF7 was such a good game and then they make the compilation which should enhance the experience and yet makes things even more confusing... And I read a plot synopsis of Before Crisis and I want them so badly to decanonize that... Frankly Dirge of Cerberus was the only halfway decent story that I could at least tolerate... and maybe Crisis Core if they hadn't so badly retconned the backstory. Advent Children, while a fun little trip, was annoying in retrospect.

Advent Children seemed a little pointless to me. I liked Crisis Core, though I have yet to beat it. The major differences I noticecd where those in the Neibleheim part of the game.

EverPhoenix · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject:

Lavos wrote:
Jason Tandro wrote:Yeah, it's a shame too because FF7 was such a good game and then they make the compilation which should enhance the experience and yet makes things even more confusing... And I read a plot synopsis of Before Crisis and I want them so badly to decanonize that... Frankly Dirge of Cerberus was the only halfway decent story that I could at least tolerate... and maybe Crisis Core if they hadn't so badly retconned the backstory. Advent Children, while a fun little trip, was annoying in retrospect.
Advent Children seemed a little pointless to me. I liked Crisis Core, though I have yet to beat it. The major differences I noticecd where those in the Neibleheim part of the game.

advent children was fairly pointless, i agree. still a decent movie though.

what i liked about the additions (im not familiar with the plots of most of them) was last order. that was a fun 20 minutes

tay120n64 · Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:38 pm Post subject:

Watch Advent Children Complete if you ever get the chance.

It's SOOOO MUCH BETTER. It's kind of like, "Why the hell wasn't it like this to begin with?"

psychokind · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:48 am Post subject:

tay120n64 wrote:Watch Advent Children Complete if you ever get the chance.

It's SOOOO MUCH BETTER. It's kind of like, "Why the hell wasn't it like this to begin with?"

word! it's awesome, as awesome as the first final fantasy movie is awesomely bad

EverPhoenix · Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:32 pm Post subject:

tay120n64 wrote:Watch Advent Children Complete if you ever get the chance.

It's SOOOO MUCH BETTER. It's kind of like, "Why the hell wasn't it like this to begin with?"

where would i find this? youtube? video store? or will i have to go to more... questionable... sources