psychokind wrote:I wasn't denying that. everyone shall believe as he pleases but there are many religions that say they're christian, and the katholics words weighs more because of said material structures. anything else isn't comparable, so that's the only thing you can have an objective view on.
Incorrect, for several reasons.
First, no religion claims to be the correct one because of what building they preach it in. I've heard of Catholics defending their beliefs as correct because Jesus was the son of God, not because they have a couple of big, awesome churches in one part of the world (which they've probably never seen).
Second, any religion is based entirely on faith. There's nothing objective about it at all. Catholics have big churches, which is an objective fact; but it has no bearing on their teachings, which renders it irrelevant.
And finally, Catholics' word weighs more to you for one reason; because you're Catholic. A follower of any other faith will think your word doesn't compare to theirs. But we're not living in Roman times any more; bigger, wealthier and more popular doesn't equate to correct.
I know, I know. but you can't compare teachings or belief. and if you look in any other matter in the world, then bigger, wealthier and more popular equates correct most of the times not that that is a good thing in all cases, though.
psychokind wrote:I wasn't denying that. everyone shall believe as he pleases but there are many religions that say they're christian, and the katholics words weighs more because of said material structures. anything else isn't comparable, so that's the only thing you can have an objective view on.
Incorrect, for several reasons.
First, no religion claims to be the correct one because of what building they preach it in. I've heard of Catholics defending their beliefs as correct because Jesus was the son of God, not because they have a couple of big, awesome churches in one part of the world (which they've probably never seen).
Second, any religion is based entirely on faith. There's nothing objective about it at all. Catholics have big churches, which is an objective fact; but it has no bearing on their teachings, which renders it irrelevant.
And finally, Catholics' word weighs more to you for one reason; because you're Catholic. A follower of any other faith will think your word doesn't compare to theirs. But we're not living in Roman times any more; bigger, wealthier and more popular doesn't equate to correct.
I know, I know. but you can't compare teachings or belief. and if you look in any other matter in the world, then bigger, wealthier and more popular equates correct most of the times not that that is a good thing in all cases, though.
And that is a very ignorant belief. Just because someone has money does not make them any better (or worse, for that matter) than anyone else. Better off? Yes. Better people? Not necessarily.
So, by your account, since like 90% of the richest people in Hollywood are part of Scientology, does that then not make them better, if not more correct, than Catholics? Especially considering Scientology was invented by an author for the sole purpose of making money. But I do guess money makes everything right... right?
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First, no religion claims to be the correct one because of what building they preach it in. I've heard of Catholics defending their beliefs as correct because Jesus was the son of God, not because they have a couple of big, awesome churches in one part of the world (which they've probably never seen).
Second, any religion is based entirely on faith. There's nothing objective about it at all. Catholics have big churches, which is an objective fact; but it has no bearing on their teachings, which renders it irrelevant.
And finally, Catholics' word weighs more to you for one reason; because you're Catholic. A follower of any other faith will think your word doesn't compare to theirs. But we're not living in Roman times any more; bigger, wealthier and more popular doesn't equate to correct.
I know, I know. but you can't compare teachings or belief. and if you look in any other matter in the world, then bigger, wealthier and more popular equates correct most of the times not that that is a good thing in all cases, though.
And that is a very ignorant belief. Just because someone has money does not make them any better (or worse, for that matter) than anyone else. Better off? Yes. Better people? Not necessarily.
So, by your account, since like 90% of the richest people in Hollywood are part of Scientology, does that then not make them better, if not more correct, than Catholics? Especially considering Scientology was invented by an author for the sole purpose of making money. But I do guess money makes everything right... right?
naah. money ain't important. I'm linking this more to cultural achievements like architecture, laws, fashion, art, traditions or historiography. the latter might me the most important, since the catholic churches archieves provide the dates of foundings of towns and family history in europe. all my 400 year old family tree or the 850-years celebration of my hometown base on these.
Jason Tandro wrote:If its respect for cultural achievement than Jews, Islam, Hindu and Shinto have Christians beat on all counts.
never! they have some great wonders, and especially in china there's a lot of whatever religion that is spread across the country. but christians shaped europe. just look at leonardos dome, and it will shatter everything else by its own.
Jason Tandro wrote:That and. Christians almost destroyed all culture of the islam in the crusades but the islam had the courtesy not to reciprocate)
well, before they concered spain once (before crusades) and the turks were just stopped before austria. it's not that the islam doesn't try the point was anyway about the "best" christians and I think the cultural etc. achievements of the catholics there stand unparalleled to the others.
Jason Tandro wrote:That and. Christians almost destroyed all culture of the islam in the crusades but the islam had the courtesy not to reciprocate)
well, before they concered spain once (before crusades) and the turks were just stopped before austria. it's not that the islam doesn't try the point was anyway about the "best" christians and I think the cultural etc. achievements of the catholics there stand unparalleled to the others.
Cultural significance doesn't really have anything to do with the validity of a religion, though.
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but there are many religions that say they're christian, and the katholics words weighs more because of said material structures. anything else isn't comparable, so that's the only thing you can have an objective view on.
